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| PopTart:alegend:westgaterunner:
Well done Jay Pitts. A players reward for their high standard of play is to get a new contract with the team around them and that is what Jay Pitts as deservedly done. What i cannot understand alegend is that you see this as "underwhelming" Having been fortunate enough to watch his career unfold from when he first played for us up till present day, I can honestly say that he is playing the best form of his career. Like I wrote earlier if you play well enough you deserve to be rewarded for your endeavours, if other players want new contracts then they have to match JPs commitment.
Was just making the point ,we have got to no when to let old players go Pitts as done a great job, but there is a time when they move on ,and I am surprised if is a two year deal .he is 36 .One of the all time greats forwards from Wigan as called it a day and he is not as old, and Amour who was up with the best retired from St last year who is also younger ..Wigan seam to be going down the line of a young pack and it is doing them no arm I agree with the point. I just think Pitts is an anomaly. I reckon we'll still have one of the youngest packs in the league. Agree, he is, and we have. You can't just look at players' ages, and when they hit 33/34, it's time to think about moving them on. You've got to judge each player individually and assess them in the here and now, with an obvious eye on how long they will have left. I think someone like Pittsy is the kind of bloke who's gonna be completely honest with himself and the club with how much he's got left in the tank, how much is he still loving playing the game, and everyone can see the quality of RL he's playing, which imo is better than ever . Each player has been through their own career paths that can't affect how long they can play for, so there's no set rule for all, not nowadays, where players look after themselves better than what players did even 15 years ago when it comes to diet, training and medical care. Some guys start the game young and get a load of injuries as they mature before they settle down, but that usually catches up with them. Others say like Sam Burgess, just put their bodies through hell and have to stop playing. Everyone's just different, some injuries just become too much, some just fall out of love with the weekly grind and want to move on to their next phase in their lives, others just gradually get slower and lose that edge. Look at Ryan Hall, I thought his career was coming to an end after his NRL stint 5 years ago, but he's continued to play at a consistently good level since returning, and he's 37. Pitts, imo, reminds me of Steve Menzies, who played until he was 39. Like Steve, people would say this would be his last year, but his performances never dropped off, and he kept on going until he called it time at Catalans.
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| You are kidding. Trueman when fit is England class. Only Brough was at that level and he had other issues that cost him. Rooney and Jeffries were both great players and too of my favourites but Trueman has skills they do not have.
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| Trueman is a class player. I really hope for himself and the team he can actually get a consecutive run of games as he is a player to genuinely build a team round. I’ve not seen a 6 as good as him in my time of watching Trinity, he is an absolute class act.
He literally amplifies the spine around him to play better. With him off the pitch against Kr, we never looked like scoring.
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| alegend:Willzay:
A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was actually useless to say he was our main playmaker.
Agree about Gaskell he was way past is best and we still had fans defending him , This is the problem with Trueman was very good when he was 18 at Cas, but bad injuries have caught up with him ,and he is not the player he was.If he was that good why did Hull let him go with one year of is contract left .Hull fans were saying they were glad to see the back of him, always out injured and one good game in every 10 Trueman played 11 games in is last season at Hull .When you think about some of the halves we have had at Wakefield over the years Miller ,Roony Jeffries Brough he is no were near there class, and would say that Dagger who played at 6 when we got relegated was better .The reason why Lino looks better when Trueman plays is that Lino can just organise his side of the field and not run all over the field like he had to do in the second half against HKR If Russell plays on Saturday we will have a half who can do the basics right, and take pressure of Lino and have Max at fullback were he should be Trueman is better than three of those you mention. You can clearly see the difference he brings to the team when he plays, and your fav Lino plays much better when he's has Trueman in the halves with him. Hull let him go because of his injury record, not because of his ability, which to me isn't in doubt. His robustness is, some people just seem to suffer more than others in what is a brutal game. His susceptibility to injury is a concern, and something the club will no doubt be aware of.
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| Agree about Truman. Hes the best 6 we have had in a very long time. Fans need to get off his back and be sensible.
If he had put some more games together I have no doubt he’d be in the ashes squad.
Looking forward to seeing him continue his good form after the concussion. Hopefully only misses a week.
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| Khlav Kalash:alegend:Willzay:
A) Trueman wasn’t signed “halfway” last season, he was signed towards the end and if you think he was going to contribute for one game then you’re living in cuckoo land.
B) Last year is incomparable to this. Rodwell and Doyle might not be on as much as Trueman individually but they did both sign new long term and improved deals.
C) when Trueman has been on the field he’s certainly helped max and mason look a lot better, and set up some nice tries for TJ.
I honestly don’t recall Gaskell getting this amount of heat and that guy was actually useless to say he was our main playmaker.
Agree about Gaskell he was way past is best and we still had fans defending him , This is the problem with Trueman was very good when he was 18 at Cas, but bad injuries have caught up with him ,and he is not the player he was.If he was that good why did Hull let him go with one year of is contract left .Hull fans were saying they were glad to see the back of him, always out injured and one good game in every 10 Trueman played 11 games in is last season at Hull .When you think about some of the halves we have had at Wakefield over the years Miller ,Roony Jeffries Brough he is no were near there class, and would say that Dagger who played at 6 when we got relegated was better .The reason why Lino looks better when Trueman plays is that Lino can just organise his side of the field and not run all over the field like he had to do in the second half against HKR If Russell plays on Saturday we will have a half who can do the basics right, and take pressure of Lino and have Max at fullback were he should be Trueman is better than three of those you mention. You can clearly see the difference he brings to the team when he plays, and your fav Lino plays much better when he's has Trueman in the halves with him. Hull let him go because of his injury record, not because of his ability, which to me isn't in doubt. His robustness is, some people just seem to suffer more than others in what is a brutal game. His susceptibility to injury is a concern, and something the club will no doubt be aware of. Part of his susceptibility to injury is that he is tough in defense and gets stuck in. I'd rather have that than someone who doesn't risk injury and just waves them through.The injury he has is an impact injury that has nothing to do with him. Tom had a long time out with concussion. Needs managing and there are rules that force us to do so.
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