Don't judge a player before he has played a game. Evidently. Although in my defence I wasn't alone in not being pleased with the Carmont signing. Whoever said he was a defensive centre?

Translated as 'you've proved me wrong there were more than 2 negative posts?'



NickyKiss is very excited about this signing on the VT. I'm unsure what made him/her change his/her mind about Gleeson.

Says her, with over 22,000 posts to her name

No, it meant there was actually 5 or 6 anti-Gleeson posts opposed to 2.



I repeat, Wow!!!







Jeez, some Warrington supporters are really struggling to get over this.

It's definitely strange. Considering so many of them were adamant that they weren't concerned about losing Gleeson, they're doing a damn good impression of being very concerned.

[url=http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/5118/1/No-quick-fix-for-Wolves/Page1.htmlSeems that Gleeson has been trying to leave the Dire for over a year[/url



I'm surprised it wasn't longer to be honest.

We all have abit of a troll now and again tbh as i'm sure you well know and that comment about Gleeson was said with tounge firmly in cheek.



He's a class superleague and international paper who looks on paper to be a top signing for us.



We've said that about other players in the past though to be fair.

Noble says Gleeson is in the best shape hes seen him in in years, thanks Wire for getting him fit for us

Oh dear, maybe Wigans fitness is being questioned here rather than just Gleese? Dont worry, hell soon come down to Wigan fitness level

Chomp chomp

Is this the same Warrington Fitness regime that has seen them be inundated with injuries for several season?



The same fitness regime that saw them lose there last 1/2 dozen games of last season by some fantastically wide margins?



The same fitness regime that makes Lee Briers look like he's carrying a Fridge on his back?





Spent a lot of time on here last few days haven't you!





But Your not upset about losing Gleeson! Honest!

On a serious note, perhaps a reflection of a more serious approach to his career.

He does look like he needs a food parcel in those photos on the web site though!



And to be fair it wouldnt take much to be fitter than some of our players no would it? Pryce Riddell, Smith, Feka! They hardly ironmen!

Now that you`ve signed Gleeson....... does that mean that Phelps is on his way to Leigh (serious question), its been a big rumour in Leigh for a few weeks now?

in answer to all your questions there, no.

Not a clue tbh but it would seem a move that would suit all parties.



He's a decent player at superleague level but probably not quite good enough to hold down a regular position in our backline.



He'd be a top player at NL standard.

No, not upto now.

Thanks for that lads.

Has 3 months changed any of your comments?

Would you expect them to have?

not really no

Regards Mathers.

I don't think Warrington fans expected him to turn out like he has. He never lacked enthusiasm for Wigan and I only wished that that had rubbed off on a few of his colleagues. He certainly seems a different player in a Warrington shirt and I'm genuinely glad for him. Hopefully he can continue in this form and put some competition in for the GB fullback position. I only wish he'd played like that when he was with us. I'm not sure of the reasons why he seems better for Warrington. Coach, leass pressure, team style of play, I don't know but good luck to him.



Regards Gleeson.

We needed a right centre badly. He's the best British right centre. He's shown signs of good play for us but he's not done it often enough as yet. I think this is due to the lack of ball he gets and hopefully he'll see more of the ball now Hock's gone from the left side.



All in all a good deal for both clubs. Whether Gleeson was worth the money that changed hands I don't know and frankly I don't care, it wasn't my money

Agree with all you say... think that is an end to the Mathers/Gleeson thing!

in fairness to wigan, hock is/was a hell of a lot more creative than gleeson anyway so you can understand the play going down that side



hopefully, as you say, gleeson will be more prominent from now on