McClennan is a Leeds fan.



No doubt he wants Bulls in is for the local derby and because he knows their crowds cannot be replaced from a Leeds point of view.

In his dreams he probably is





The extra couple of thousand quid Bradford's travelling fans bring to Leeds is completely immaterial to us. In fact we're even [url=http://www.therhinos.co.uk/news/19847.phpgiving it away to a worthy cause this year[/url.

McClennan is a what? From since when?

That's the first good argument I've read in support of demotion because the others appear to be oblivious to the possible consequences to the sport if it happens. Thank you.

Rangers FC is dead. It is a newco now.



Allowing them back in will destroy Scottish football. What's to stop other Scottish clubs liquidating and then setting up a newco because they know they can drop into the 1st division.



Hearts are £30m in debt. If they were to setup a newco and then be forced into the 3rd division then they would fight the SFL in the courts and would win. You can't have one rule for govan fc while the rest get put to the bottom.

Would Bradford even be allowed to apply next time should they be relegated, wasn't the precedent set with Widnes?



This whole sorry episode shows why our game cannot continue in its current format.

What is it with people saying that SL couldn't do without the Bulls? Of course they could. Life goes on. Bradford would bounce back. If Halifax were to replace them, they would grow their crowds. I seem to remember in the 80's that Halifax had a good away following. Much better then Bradford. As for the juniors in Bradford's academies, the clubs left in SL or the promoted club would pick them up if they were any good.



SL wouldn't be any poorer than it is now. Bradford haven't been a force for a few seasons now but SL has continued to blossom.

Yes, the precedent was set with Widnes. Who not only were allowed to apply in 2008 but did apply and had their application judged.

Thank you, did the application fail due to lack of financial history after the administration/cva?

Yes apparantly so and a completely baffling one at that. A bad decision doesn't make the system incorrect however.

It just gets worse as EA say that they may not be able to include Rangers in FIFA 13 as their licensing arrangement is only with the Scottish Premier League (source MCV).

Dundee did just that in 2010 (through administration) and get into the SPL in 2012 funny old world.

distinction without a difference.



The TV rights contract isnt dependent on any other clubs other than Rangers and celtic. If Rangers stay down for more than one year, that contract will be ripped up and the £20m a season currently pumped in to scottish football will drop to about half that. 4 Clubs in last years SPL averaged under 5k, 5 others averaged under 10k. What kind of impact is a loss of £900k a year in tv rights going to make to those clubs? Especially considering that one of their two biggest attendances are lost as well.

This isnt just a temporary thing, this will probably destroy Scottish football completely. TV's interest in Scottish Football starts and ends with the old firm. The next 4 years will see a massively lower TV rights, and much lower interest. The players leaving Rangers arent going to other Scottish clubs, they are leaving scotland, Celtic have no need, to have a better squad next season than this, They finished 31 points ahead of motherwell in 3rd place. Why would they keep on their big earners or sign new quality players? its just money down the drain. The likes of Ledley, Wanyama, Izaguirre, Commons et al will leave and not be replaced by the same quality. Without the tv money and gate money from rangers other SPL clubs will go bust, They will have to be dropped to the 3rd division and they will be replaced by smaller clubs who will in turn negatively affect the value of the league.



Rangers spend more than a year out of the SPL, the SPL is gone.

I think Rangers going into the 3rd tier is a lot worse for Scottish football than the Bulls or any other club in the SL being demoted. In the scottish footbal is based largely around the Old Firm, lets be honest no team in rugby league could possibly have that effect.

Smokey,

In a sentence,what do you think should happen to Bradford Bulls ?



The irony of it being Dundee,to replace Rangers,really hits the heights.Dundee invited into their club,some years ago,an individual who is certainly up there as a 'fit and proper person' where the only surprise is that he isn't from Yorkshire and in charge of a club or employed by the RFL.

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Dundee were deducted 25 points for entering administration a couple of years ago.

I dont know. It is entirely dependent on the new owners. Put simply, if the new owners are stable and looking to invest and build Bradford Bulls then i wouldnt relegate them to prove some point or gain some retribution. If we cant be sure they are stable, looking to invest and build Bradford Bulls then they should be relegated.

And who do you think is qualified to make that decision? , will they just ask them ? , or maybe check up on them? , get them to take a lie detector test or something ? , maybe a cash bond deposited with the RFL should be asked for? , that would sort out the real deal from the tyre kickers

The RFL in co-operation with other SL clubs.



A cash bond is a nonsense idea, only someone looking to put obstacles in place would suggest.

So they'll just ask them then?

And evidence it.

What, like a ' mind probe ' or something? , truth drugs maybe?

Yes, exactly like that. They are after all the only evidence of business acumen and financial probity.

What has business acumen and financial probity got to do with looking to build and invest in Bradford Bulls? , what they really should ' test ' them for is insanity? , if they pass the test and are clinically insane they get the Bulls



If they fail the test then quite simply they want to get their hands on Odsal for development

When were you given a look at Bradfords books?



Let me guess? one of your super secret RL friends came and told you in one of your super secret meetings where you get told 'the truth' whilst everyone else is lied to, and coincidentally all these 'truths' you are told always fit with your pre-existing bias.

What relevance does Bradfords ' Books ' have to anybody taking over? , basically it is a simple question for the RFL/administrators, " Do you have 5/6/7 hundred thousand a year to throw away ? "



It really is that simple