I feel that the club would have known that Nobby would step in and help. He's got some time on his hands to do it, and I am sure that Bradford is one club he feels that he is obliged to help because of his roots and his past success.



Whether this manifested itself before MOnday is debatable. But one things for sure, if we want an honest, hardworking coach whose heart is at Bradford and has a proven record of success, and the respect of many people within the game, then there are few to rival Brian. And if he's going to come in for free, Wonderful!



I have always found Nobby to seldom be afraid of expressing himself honestly, and with integrity. If he had been approached prior to MOnday, he would have said. Remember, Nobby and Mick go back quite a long way. there's plenty of respect and friendship. The whole Franny thing is understandable too! If he's coming in with a game at the weekend, he needs somebody who knows the players very well to help him. Can see why he did that.



None of us like the way that the staff were delat with on Monday. Not one bit! But look forward. Withy Nobby and Tasker working without pay in the short term, we could be a lot worse off!

Has anyone asked the players to play for nothing yet. That should ease finance a little?

Cassandra, As soon as a club does that, it makes their contracts null and void. Thats the last thing the club will want to do as the players are the only assets the club has! They can seek to defer payment, but with cashflow being the problem, the players are likely to see that as not being paidf and thus they are free to go!

you dont need to offer an apology, you are simply wrong. he was asked if he would take over for free last THURSDAY which allowed the decisions to be made with potter etc when he indicated he would. That doesnt mean he was offered the role then.



and whos the muppet, when your stating he cant of been??? do you really think that you cant line up a replacement until you have 100% confirmation that the potter has turned it down.



They never thought for a second potter would agree and thats why nobby was approached. the fact that they were firing mp, his coaching staff, his wife and all the back office staff, all when it is clear it hasnt been done in the most proffessional way was a good reason why he was likely to decline.



nobby isnt too happy with how its been handled although he is likely to accept the role now and could be announced today.

In the paper Nobby is quoted as saying it might be too tough a gig. Come on Nobby you have never shirked a challenge in your life! You mention a negative reaction being made. At the meeting on Monday there was just one numptie who mouthed off against the suggestion you might be involved in a coaching capacity, at least short term and he was very quickly shouted down. Any reaction is not against you coming in at all, rather it was the way Mick Potter was shown the door.



As a proud Bradfordian with red and amber and black coursing through your veins, now is the time Nobby. Come on back to Odsal, we need you Sunday.

the fact Nobby may have theoretically been sounded out to work for nowt before Monday and in principle may have agreed to help out if all else failed may have accelerated the decision to make the wholesale cull of the coaching staff

Why can't the players give the wages as a donation?

Nobody cares when he was asked, what he replied or what he had for breakfast. We need a passionate Bradfordian in the coaches seat today. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... on=success

Nobody cares when he was asked, what he replied or what he had for breakfast. We need a passionate Bradfordian in the coaches seat today. www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... on=success

I didn't like the way noble had been linked to the caisley consortium and that this had been predicted months ago but I feel we need him now



One more here happy to see you at the club, sorry for thinking you could be part of this mess

I don't think anyone supports the way the staff cuts this week were handled or the timing. Most people understand the severity of the situation and the fact that drastic measures are needed, but having been forced to manage restructuring (closing) sites myself I know the one thing you have to do is keep staff informed of the circumstances as far as possible and man up and see them all face to face.



But if B Noble is prepared to step in and help in this awful situation then all fans should support him. By whom and at what time he was contacted isn't the point - if he is prepared to step in and help get a team on the field then this is a massive contribution to salvaging something from the wreakage. Having come accross Brian several times when he was still a crime prevention officer I always found him open and honest - and even if he couldn't coach (and he can) then these are two qualitites which are definately needed now!



Lets all get behind him

sacking the staff enables us an extra couple of days to try and find a buyer. Yes its crap, yes we feel for those people, but survival of the club is paramount, and with the type of quality people that we let go, they will understand, even though they will have hoped it wouldnt come to that! heres to s decent crowd on Sunday, that shows potential buyers that we have something worth saving.

I hope Noble comes on board for Sunday, even if it is just naming the team and making interchanges. I think what is annoying people is not Noble coming in it's they way the administrator is handling things.

I won't lower myself to name calling but at what point does it say Nobby was asked on Monday ? Does he not have a mobile that he can be called on whilst abroad. Do you also not think that BG would have envisaged making staff redundant PRIOR to actually doing it or do you just think he thought " I know, this morning I'm gonna walk in, sack the caches, THEN I might call Brian Noble who MIGHT want to help out !! is it not feasible that he sounded him out before taking a drastic measure???



Look, I know for a fact that this is the case because i heard it from my mate who sees him nearly every day. He told me this on Friday that this was happening.

Let's be clear. Noble said he was asked on Monday, which he was. You threw in a bald one-line claim that he was not telling the truth:



...thus calling Noble a liar and saying he was asked to do a job before there was a job.



Your claim was not that he had "been lined up", or sounded out or anything less, but that he had been asked on the previous Thursday, and not as he said on the Monday after the sackings.



Now you are backtracking and moving on to whether Noble had been approached, or sounded out, but that is a completely different thing, as well you know. There;s no doubt that the administrator will (obviously) have discussed all sorts of options with all sorts of people. But you are changing the subject. You are just getting your knickers twisted trying to pretend you have an inside line into both the personal discussions of Noble and indeed into the mind of the administrator..



"They never thought for a second Potter would agree" is another such ludicrous claim to insider knowledge. You have no clue what they thought. But even if all that were true, they STILL cannot have asked Nobby to be the unpaid coach before Monday, as until Potter refused and then was 'made redundant' (sic), there was no vacancy.











.. indeed - except you say he had already been asked and had agreed, to take a job which wasn't vacant! Stop being ridiculous. Or are you now claiming that when Noble "was asked on Thursday" to do the coaching job for free, he wasn't told, and didn't ask, just exactly how there would be a vacancy, given his friend MP was the current coach?

Im possible that he didn't - but like your mate, you are now talking about a different thing, there is a mile of difference between being sounded out, and being asked to do the job.





yes, I'm sure that Noble would share such extremely personal and delicate confidential information casually with "mates" who are such good friends they immediately tittle tattle it all to the likes of you. Now run along.

Whatever the ins and outs I hope we do have somebody acting as head coach if the game goes on this Sunday. If it's Noble then so be it. It could be a lot worse. Sure the players aren't happy at the moment but nobody is.

im not backtracking on anything!



BN was asked on Thursday if he would consider taking over the coaching reins on an expenses basis only as they needed to get rid of all coaching staff. He asked that one be kept on and that he would do it as long as the whole thing was handled correctly (as he was mates with Potter).



Noble asked Cummins on Monday if he would stay on. He knew what was happening last week. Noble has never said he only found out on Monday as far as I'm aware.

Noble has told Bradford to shove it, by all accounts. He was willing to do it for free but can't be bothered with the agro.

However, you are correct in one thing and that its disrespectful of me to post what he has said to a mutual friend who has passed that info on to me. I just thought that rather than all the guessing games that are floating, some true facts may assist. I have posted sparingly on the whole debacle but my previous posts as soon as the pledges issue came around should confirm that what i have been told is accurate, however, if it be better that people would like to play guessing games then so be it.



I am not childish enough to come on to a forum and simply make things up. Then be abused for providing information that I have 100% no reason to doubt is unfair but I guess i can understand your scepticism as there are a lot of "mates" type stories.

But plenty are, and nobody knows you from Adam.

The conversation might have been like this:

Part one - some time in the last few weeks



CC: Brian, We are in the poo and have no paddle. Could you help if we need you?

BN: Sure, I love the club and will do what I can.

CC: OK I'll let the insolvency practicioner know, just incase he some how becomes our administrator.



No mention of what he'll be doing, just an intention to help if he can





Then - part 2: Somtime on Monday



BG: Hi Brian, Chris mentioned your offer to help the club.

BN: Sure brendon, how can i help?

BG: Well, I ve just had to let most of the staff go as we've no cash, and I could do withn somebody who knows the club, and is respected by the players, to act as a coach / director of rugby, to act as a conduit between me and the playing staff.

BN: That sounds fine, how big is the salary?

BG: No salary nobby, you need to do this for your love of the club.

BN: NO worries, I'll drop Fran a line, he knows the lads and I am sure I can work with him.

BG: OK, I'll pop into Tong at 10am tomorow and introduce you to the players. Thanks again!



Part three MOnday , late PM



BN: Hi Brendon, some tolls have been giving my lad some stick, and there's some real gloits ont he forums giving me the dogs abuse. I grew up in Bradford and still call it home, I served as a player and a police officer in the city and I was the most successful coach the club ever had, but these 2@s are going to make my life a misery. I dont need it!

BG: have a think Brian, take a couple of days. But we could do with you before the london game.

BN: OK Brendon, Ill get back to you when I've briefed the media.

BG: OK, got to go, Ive got to try and get in touch with the players as theres no need to meet now. How am I going to do that? these players are so illusive. How can i getb their numbers? How do I use twitter? where's the nearest payphone?

BN: speak soon Bren

BG: Cheers, Bye!

haha, I often chuckle at your replies and probably shouldnt waste my time replying, however....



If you want to discuss semantics, its probably better that you read what was posted correctly. I stated noble was asked on thurs, that is simple. I didnt claim he was offered to start immediatley, but was asked. which he was. at that point, im pretty sure potter was told of the redundency on fri although not 100% on this. funny that is all fits nicely isnt it.



and guess what, just because there wasnt a vacancy, doesnt mean that he cant be offered the role. i love your certainty- he WASNT asked until monday. They CANNOT have asked. you are very confident, so confident in fact im wondering what you are basing this on. clearly your not STUPID enough to simply base this on media reports? are you? or are you?

if you look back over certain peoples posts, it is evident they had prior knowledge of events coming up. and that they werent simply posting random rumours.

I'm sure that's true. It's only this week that I've allowed myself to pay any attention to this again at all.

slideby, haven't you got a faked moon landings seminar to attend?





It does, though. That's precisely what it means. The only way it could be otherwise is if Guilfoyle was going to sack Potter, in any event. Otherwise, only hypothetical discussions could (and I have no doubt did) take place.



To fit your claim, it would need to be true that, even if Potter had agreed to work for no pay, Guilfoyle would still have sacked him. In other words, utter bollox, because plainly, he wouldn't.



This has run its course, but briefly, you are only resorting to semantics to pathetically try to wriggle out of what you posted, and your claim that not only Noble, but now Guilfoyle and Potter himself are lying and in fact Potter was sacked on Friday not Monday indicates to me you should be left alone in your own fantasy world, where everyone is a liar, and only you know the truth.